Discussion:
Illumination engineering books
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little sailor
2015-05-23 07:25:34 UTC
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Continues from the previous post -

what about basic books on illumination engineering? Something that would
explain basic designs and their principles so that one could start
experimentin a bit on his own in a sensible way? I have a good general
knowledge of optics, but e.g. a book like John Koshel's illumination
engineering is too advanced for me as a starting point in this field -
as I can't see from that what are the principles that one follows to
start designing illumination optics.

Thanks in advance for any answer to any of my two posts!

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Adam Hirst
2016-11-01 23:18:04 UTC
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Post by little sailor
Continues from the previous post -
what about basic books on illumination engineering? Something that would
explain basic designs and their principles so that one could start
experimentin a bit on his own in a sensible way? I have a good general
knowledge of optics, but e.g. a book like John Koshel's illumination
engineering is too advanced for me as a starting point in this field -
as I can't see from that what are the principles that one follows to
start designing illumination optics.
Thanks in advance for any answer to any of my two posts!
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I know I'm very late in responding to this, but if the OP is no longer
available, at least my post might be useful to someone else.

I would personally recommend the absolutely excellent book "Introduction
to Nonimaging Optics, 2nd Edition" by Julio Chaves from LPI, Madrid.
More or less the entire field is covered from start to finish, clearly
explained, covering specific examples along with general cases. There's
even a library of very useful geometric optics routines and plane curve
related expressions in the back!

I like some parts of Koshel's book, but other parts are simply too
specific to be especially useful to the "general" nonimaging-optics
reader. Lots of focus on optimisation, as well, which, while relevant to
the daily life of an optical designer, doesn't make especially
interesting or groundbreaking reading. At least in my opinion.

Another book worth mentioning is "Nonimaging Optics", by Winston, Miñano
and Benítez, especially chapter 7 for design problems. However, it
suffers similarly as to Koshel, and perhaps more damningly, there are
errors and oversights - for example, some of the graphs and figures in
that chapter showing the end performance for surfaces tailored according
to the methods shown for specified parameters are actually for
*different surfaces*, and there are some typos in the section on the 3D
point-source tailoring section which make some of the resulting
equations useless (using the same letter but with different accents to
mean totally different quantities is asking for trouble...). So,
basically, start with Chaves.

Source: I'm a student at CeDInt, under Profs. Benítez and Miñano.

Best regards,
Adam Hirst, MPhys (Dunelm)
Phil Hobbs
2016-11-02 14:23:48 UTC
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Post by little sailor
Continues from the previous post -
what about basic books on illumination engineering? Something that would
explain basic designs and their principles so that one could start
experimentin a bit on his own in a sensible way? I have a good general
knowledge of optics, but e.g. a book like John Koshel's illumination
engineering is too advanced for me as a starting point in this field -
as I can't see from that what are the principles that one follows to
start designing illumination optics.
Thanks in advance for any answer to any of my two posts!
---
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I know I'm very late in responding to this, but if the OP is no longer
available, at least my post might be useful to someone else.
I would personally recommend the absolutely excellent book "Introduction
to Nonimaging Optics, 2nd Edition" by Julio Chaves from LPI, Madrid.
More or less the entire field is covered from start to finish, clearly
explained, covering specific examples along with general cases. There's
even a library of very useful geometric optics routines and plane curve
related expressions in the back!
I like some parts of Koshel's book, but other parts are simply too
specific to be especially useful to the "general" nonimaging-optics
reader. Lots of focus on optimisation, as well, which, while relevant to
the daily life of an optical designer, doesn't make especially
interesting or groundbreaking reading. At least in my opinion.
Another book worth mentioning is "Nonimaging Optics", by Winston, Miñano
and Benítez, especially chapter 7 for design problems. However, it
suffers similarly as to Koshel, and perhaps more damningly, there are
errors and oversights - for example, some of the graphs and figures in
that chapter showing the end performance for surfaces tailored according
to the methods shown for specified parameters are actually for
*different surfaces*, and there are some typos in the section on the 3D
point-source tailoring section which make some of the resulting
equations useless (using the same letter but with different accents to
mean totally different quantities is asking for trouble...). So,
basically, start with Chaves.
Source: I'm a student at CeDInt, under Profs. Benítez and Miñano.
Best regards,
Adam Hirst, MPhys (Dunelm)
I have the Welford and Winston "Nonimaging Concentrators", which I like.
I ordered a copy of Chaves--we'll see! Thanks for the steer.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net
g***@gmail.com
2016-11-02 15:31:15 UTC
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Post by little sailor
Continues from the previous post -
what about basic books on illumination engineering? Something that would
explain basic designs and their principles so that one could start
experimentin a bit on his own in a sensible way? I have a good general
knowledge of optics, but e.g. a book like John Koshel's illumination
engineering is too advanced for me as a starting point in this field -
as I can't see from that what are the principles that one follows to
start designing illumination optics.
Thanks in advance for any answer to any of my two posts!
---
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I know I'm very late in responding to this, but if the OP is no longer
available, at least my post might be useful to someone else.
I would personally recommend the absolutely excellent book "Introduction
to Nonimaging Optics, 2nd Edition" by Julio Chaves from LPI, Madrid.
More or less the entire field is covered from start to finish, clearly
explained, covering specific examples along with general cases. There's
even a library of very useful geometric optics routines and plane curve
related expressions in the back!
I like some parts of Koshel's book, but other parts are simply too
specific to be especially useful to the "general" nonimaging-optics
reader. Lots of focus on optimisation, as well, which, while relevant to
the daily life of an optical designer, doesn't make especially
interesting or groundbreaking reading. At least in my opinion.
Another book worth mentioning is "Nonimaging Optics", by Winston, Miñano
and Benítez, especially chapter 7 for design problems. However, it
suffers similarly as to Koshel, and perhaps more damningly, there are
errors and oversights - for example, some of the graphs and figures in
that chapter showing the end performance for surfaces tailored according
to the methods shown for specified parameters are actually for
*different surfaces*, and there are some typos in the section on the 3D
point-source tailoring section which make some of the resulting
equations useless (using the same letter but with different accents to
mean totally different quantities is asking for trouble...). So,
basically, start with Chaves.
Source: I'm a student at CeDInt, under Profs. Benítez and Miñano.
Best regards,
Adam Hirst, MPhys (Dunelm)
I have the Welford and Winston "Nonimaging Concentrators", which I like.
I ordered a copy of Chaves--we'll see! Thanks for the steer.
Cheers
Hmm Chaves is a bit spendy. Welford and Winston looks more in my price range. :^)

Phil, if you think of it would you post some comments / thoughts on Chaves' text?

George H.
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Phil Hobbs
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Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net
Phil Hobbs
2016-11-02 17:30:41 UTC
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Post by little sailor
Continues from the previous post -
what about basic books on illumination engineering? Something that would
explain basic designs and their principles so that one could start
experimentin a bit on his own in a sensible way? I have a good general
knowledge of optics, but e.g. a book like John Koshel's illumination
engineering is too advanced for me as a starting point in this field -
as I can't see from that what are the principles that one follows to
start designing illumination optics.
Thanks in advance for any answer to any of my two posts!
---
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I know I'm very late in responding to this, but if the OP is no longer
available, at least my post might be useful to someone else.
I would personally recommend the absolutely excellent book "Introduction
to Nonimaging Optics, 2nd Edition" by Julio Chaves from LPI, Madrid.
More or less the entire field is covered from start to finish, clearly
explained, covering specific examples along with general cases. There's
even a library of very useful geometric optics routines and plane curve
related expressions in the back!
I like some parts of Koshel's book, but other parts are simply too
specific to be especially useful to the "general" nonimaging-optics
reader. Lots of focus on optimisation, as well, which, while relevant to
the daily life of an optical designer, doesn't make especially
interesting or groundbreaking reading. At least in my opinion.
Another book worth mentioning is "Nonimaging Optics", by Winston, Miñano
and Benítez, especially chapter 7 for design problems. However, it
suffers similarly as to Koshel, and perhaps more damningly, there are
errors and oversights - for example, some of the graphs and figures in
that chapter showing the end performance for surfaces tailored according
to the methods shown for specified parameters are actually for
*different surfaces*, and there are some typos in the section on the 3D
point-source tailoring section which make some of the resulting
equations useless (using the same letter but with different accents to
mean totally different quantities is asking for trouble...). So,
basically, start with Chaves.
Source: I'm a student at CeDInt, under Profs. Benítez and Miñano.
Best regards,
Adam Hirst, MPhys (Dunelm)
I have the Welford and Winston "Nonimaging Concentrators", which I like.
I ordered a copy of Chaves--we'll see! Thanks for the steer.
Cheers
Hmm Chaves is a bit spendy. Welford and Winston looks more in my price range. :^)
Phil, if you think of it would you post some comments / thoughts on Chaves' text?
George H.
I found a copy for $100ish on ABE, and technical books are
tax-deductible, so it seemed like a good bet.

The edge-ray principle is really pretty. (W&W talks a lot about that.)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net
g***@gmail.com
2016-11-02 19:22:09 UTC
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Post by little sailor
Continues from the previous post -
what about basic books on illumination engineering? Something that would
explain basic designs and their principles so that one could start
experimentin a bit on his own in a sensible way? I have a good general
knowledge of optics, but e.g. a book like John Koshel's illumination
engineering is too advanced for me as a starting point in this field -
as I can't see from that what are the principles that one follows to
start designing illumination optics.
Thanks in advance for any answer to any of my two posts!
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I know I'm very late in responding to this, but if the OP is no longer
available, at least my post might be useful to someone else.
I would personally recommend the absolutely excellent book "Introduction
to Nonimaging Optics, 2nd Edition" by Julio Chaves from LPI, Madrid.
More or less the entire field is covered from start to finish, clearly
explained, covering specific examples along with general cases. There's
even a library of very useful geometric optics routines and plane curve
related expressions in the back!
I like some parts of Koshel's book, but other parts are simply too
specific to be especially useful to the "general" nonimaging-optics
reader. Lots of focus on optimisation, as well, which, while relevant to
the daily life of an optical designer, doesn't make especially
interesting or groundbreaking reading. At least in my opinion.
Another book worth mentioning is "Nonimaging Optics", by Winston, Miñano
and Benítez, especially chapter 7 for design problems. However, it
suffers similarly as to Koshel, and perhaps more damningly, there are
errors and oversights - for example, some of the graphs and figures in
that chapter showing the end performance for surfaces tailored according
to the methods shown for specified parameters are actually for
*different surfaces*, and there are some typos in the section on the 3D
point-source tailoring section which make some of the resulting
equations useless (using the same letter but with different accents to
mean totally different quantities is asking for trouble...). So,
basically, start with Chaves.
Source: I'm a student at CeDInt, under Profs. Benítez and Miñano.
Best regards,
Adam Hirst, MPhys (Dunelm)
I have the Welford and Winston "Nonimaging Concentrators", which I like.
I ordered a copy of Chaves--we'll see! Thanks for the steer.
Cheers
Hmm Chaves is a bit spendy. Welford and Winston looks more in my price range. :^)
Phil, if you think of it would you post some comments / thoughts on Chaves' text?
George H.
I found a copy for $100ish on ABE, and technical books are
tax-deductible, so it seemed like a good bet.
The edge-ray principle is really pretty. (W&W talks a lot about that.)
Huh, OK... this?
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Harald_Ries/publication/243576201_Edge-ray_principle_of_nonimaging_optics/links/555304a808aeaaff3bf008a2.pdf

We use to use long cones for concentrating FIR light onto a bolometer or other
detector. A grad student then made his parabolic. That's about as much as I know.

George
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Cheers
Phil Hobbs
--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net
Phil Hobbs
2016-11-02 20:54:50 UTC
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Post by little sailor
Continues from the previous post -
what about basic books on illumination engineering? Something that would
explain basic designs and their principles so that one could start
experimentin a bit on his own in a sensible way? I have a good general
knowledge of optics, but e.g. a book like John Koshel's illumination
engineering is too advanced for me as a starting point in this field -
as I can't see from that what are the principles that one follows to
start designing illumination optics.
Thanks in advance for any answer to any of my two posts!
---
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I know I'm very late in responding to this, but if the OP is no longer
available, at least my post might be useful to someone else.
I would personally recommend the absolutely excellent book "Introduction
to Nonimaging Optics, 2nd Edition" by Julio Chaves from LPI, Madrid.
More or less the entire field is covered from start to finish, clearly
explained, covering specific examples along with general cases. There's
even a library of very useful geometric optics routines and plane curve
related expressions in the back!
I like some parts of Koshel's book, but other parts are simply too
specific to be especially useful to the "general" nonimaging-optics
reader. Lots of focus on optimisation, as well, which, while relevant to
the daily life of an optical designer, doesn't make especially
interesting or groundbreaking reading. At least in my opinion.
Another book worth mentioning is "Nonimaging Optics", by Winston, Miñano
and Benítez, especially chapter 7 for design problems. However, it
suffers similarly as to Koshel, and perhaps more damningly, there are
errors and oversights - for example, some of the graphs and figures in
that chapter showing the end performance for surfaces tailored according
to the methods shown for specified parameters are actually for
*different surfaces*, and there are some typos in the section on the 3D
point-source tailoring section which make some of the resulting
equations useless (using the same letter but with different accents to
mean totally different quantities is asking for trouble...). So,
basically, start with Chaves.
Source: I'm a student at CeDInt, under Profs. Benítez and Miñano.
Best regards,
Adam Hirst, MPhys (Dunelm)
I have the Welford and Winston "Nonimaging Concentrators", which I like.
I ordered a copy of Chaves--we'll see! Thanks for the steer.
Cheers
Hmm Chaves is a bit spendy. Welford and Winston looks more in my price range. :^)
Phil, if you think of it would you post some comments / thoughts on Chaves' text?
George H.
I found a copy for $100ish on ABE, and technical books are
tax-deductible, so it seemed like a good bet.
The edge-ray principle is really pretty. (W&W talks a lot about that.)
Huh, OK... this?
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Harald_Ries/publication/243576201_Edge-ray_principle_of_nonimaging_optics/links/555304a808aeaaff3bf008a2.pdf
We use to use long cones for concentrating FIR light onto a bolometer or other
detector. A grad student then made his parabolic. That's about as much as I know.
The idea is that you only need a sharp image at the edge of the
detector, and don't care too much what happens away from the edge, as
long as no rays are lost. That's why in 1-D you put the focus of the
left-hand parabola at the right-hand edge of the detector, and vice
versa. There's a range of angles over which no rays are lost.

It's more complicated in 2-D on account of skew rays, but you can get
pretty close to 100%. W&W have a lot of discussion and graphs and stuff.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net
Mike S
2016-11-03 05:17:23 UTC
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Post by little sailor
Continues from the previous post -
what about basic books on illumination engineering? Something that would
explain basic designs and their principles so that one could start
experimentin a bit on his own in a sensible way? I have a good general
knowledge of optics, but e.g. a book like John Koshel's illumination
engineering is too advanced for me as a starting point in this field -
as I can't see from that what are the principles that one follows to
start designing illumination optics.
Thanks in advance for any answer to any of my two posts!
---
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I know I'm very late in responding to this, but if the OP is no longer
available, at least my post might be useful to someone else.
I would personally recommend the absolutely excellent book
"Introduction
to Nonimaging Optics, 2nd Edition" by Julio Chaves from LPI, Madrid.
More or less the entire field is covered from start to finish, clearly
explained, covering specific examples along with general cases. There's
even a library of very useful geometric optics routines and plane curve
related expressions in the back!
I like some parts of Koshel's book, but other parts are simply too
specific to be especially useful to the "general" nonimaging-optics
reader. Lots of focus on optimisation, as well, which, while relevant to
the daily life of an optical designer, doesn't make especially
interesting or groundbreaking reading. At least in my opinion.
Another book worth mentioning is "Nonimaging Optics", by Winston, Miñano
and Benítez, especially chapter 7 for design problems. However, it
suffers similarly as to Koshel, and perhaps more damningly, there are
errors and oversights - for example, some of the graphs and figures in
that chapter showing the end performance for surfaces tailored according
to the methods shown for specified parameters are actually for
*different surfaces*, and there are some typos in the section on the 3D
point-source tailoring section which make some of the resulting
equations useless (using the same letter but with different accents to
mean totally different quantities is asking for trouble...). So,
basically, start with Chaves.
Source: I'm a student at CeDInt, under Profs. Benítez and Miñano.
Best regards,
Adam Hirst, MPhys (Dunelm)
I have the Welford and Winston "Nonimaging Concentrators", which I like.
I ordered a copy of Chaves--we'll see! Thanks for the steer.
Cheers
Hmm Chaves is a bit spendy. Welford and Winston looks more in my price range. :^)
Phil, if you think of it would you post some comments / thoughts on Chaves' text?
George H.
I found a copy for $100ish on ABE, and technical books are
tax-deductible, so it seemed like a good bet.
The edge-ray principle is really pretty. (W&W talks a lot about that.)
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
Bookfinder found a Canadian source for significantly less, $US 47.52
with shipping.

http://www.bookfinder.com/search/?ac=sl&st=sl&ref=bf_s2_a1_t1_1&qi=68,wvRXnnc2pURxb.gDiNrWMewo_1478150075_1:270:579&bq=author%3Djulio%2520chaves%26title%3Dintroduction%2520to%2520nonimaging%2520optics

https://www.amazon.ca/Introduction-Nonimaging-Optics-Second-Chaves/dp/1482206730%3FSubscriptionId%3D1NNRF7QZ418V218YP1R2%26tag%3Dbf-dt-content-1-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3D1482206730
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Continues from the previous post -
what about basic books on illumination engineering?
Something that would explain basic designs and their
principles so that one could start experimentin a bit on
his own in a sensible way? I have a good general knowledge
of optics, but e.g. a book like John Koshel's illumination
engineering is too advanced for me as a starting point in
this field - as I can't see from that what are the
principles that one follows to start designing illumination
optics.
Thanks in advance for any answer to any of my two posts!
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Viren geprüft. http://www.avast.com
I know I'm very late in responding to this, but if the OP is
no longer available, at least my post might be useful to
someone else.
I would personally recommend the absolutely excellent book
"Introduction to Nonimaging Optics, 2nd Edition" by Julio
Chaves from LPI, Madrid. More or less the entire field is
covered from start to finish, clearly explained, covering
specific examples along with general cases. There's even a
library of very useful geometric optics routines and plane
curve related expressions in the back!
I like some parts of Koshel's book, but other parts are
simply too specific to be especially useful to the "general"
nonimaging-optics reader. Lots of focus on optimisation, as
well, which, while relevant to the daily life of an optical
designer, doesn't make especially interesting or
groundbreaking reading. At least in my opinion.
Another book worth mentioning is "Nonimaging Optics", by
Winston, Miñano and Benítez, especially chapter 7 for design
problems. However, it suffers similarly as to Koshel, and
perhaps more damningly, there are errors and oversights - for
example, some of the graphs and figures in that chapter
showing the end performance for surfaces tailored according
to the methods shown for specified parameters are actually
for *different surfaces*, and there are some typos in the
section on the 3D point-source tailoring section which make
some of the resulting equations useless (using the same
letter but with different accents to mean totally different
quantities is asking for trouble...). So, basically, start
with Chaves.
Source: I'm a student at CeDInt, under Profs. Benítez and
Miñano.
Best regards, Adam Hirst, MPhys (Dunelm)
I have the Welford and Winston "Nonimaging Concentrators",
which I like. I ordered a copy of Chaves--we'll see! Thanks
for the steer.
Cheers
Hmm Chaves is a bit spendy. Welford and Winston looks more in my price range. :^)
Phil, if you think of it would you post some comments / thoughts on Chaves' text?
George H.
I found a copy for $100ish on ABE, and technical books are
tax-deductible, so it seemed like a good bet. The edge-ray
principle is really pretty. (W&W talks a lot about that.) Cheers
Phil Hobbs
Bookfinder found a Canadian source for significantly less, $US 47.52
with shipping.
http://www.bookfinder.com/search/?ac=sl&st=sl&ref=bf_s2_a1_t1_1&qi=68,wvRXnnc2pURxb.gDiNrWMewo_1478150075_1:270:579&bq=author%3Djulio%2520chaves%26title%3Dintroduction%2520to%2520nonimaging%2520optics
https://www.amazon.ca/Introduction-Nonimaging-Optics-Second-Chaves/dp/1482206730%3FSubscriptionId%3D1NNRF7QZ418V218YP1R2%26tag%3Dbf-dt-content-1-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3D1482206730
Cool. George, you officially have no excuse left. ;

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net
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2016-11-04 13:11:41 UTC
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Post by little sailor
Continues from the previous post -
what about basic books on illumination engineering?
Something that would explain basic designs and their
principles so that one could start experimentin a bit on
his own in a sensible way? I have a good general knowledge
of optics, but e.g. a book like John Koshel's illumination
engineering is too advanced for me as a starting point in
this field - as I can't see from that what are the
principles that one follows to start designing illumination
optics.
Thanks in advance for any answer to any of my two posts!
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I know I'm very late in responding to this, but if the OP is
no longer available, at least my post might be useful to
someone else.
I would personally recommend the absolutely excellent book
"Introduction to Nonimaging Optics, 2nd Edition" by Julio
Chaves from LPI, Madrid. More or less the entire field is
covered from start to finish, clearly explained, covering
specific examples along with general cases. There's even a
library of very useful geometric optics routines and plane
curve related expressions in the back!
I like some parts of Koshel's book, but other parts are
simply too specific to be especially useful to the "general"
nonimaging-optics reader. Lots of focus on optimisation, as
well, which, while relevant to the daily life of an optical
designer, doesn't make especially interesting or
groundbreaking reading. At least in my opinion.
Another book worth mentioning is "Nonimaging Optics", by
Winston, Miñano and Benítez, especially chapter 7 for design
problems. However, it suffers similarly as to Koshel, and
perhaps more damningly, there are errors and oversights - for
example, some of the graphs and figures in that chapter
showing the end performance for surfaces tailored according
to the methods shown for specified parameters are actually
for *different surfaces*, and there are some typos in the
section on the 3D point-source tailoring section which make
some of the resulting equations useless (using the same
letter but with different accents to mean totally different
quantities is asking for trouble...). So, basically, start
with Chaves.
Source: I'm a student at CeDInt, under Profs. Benítez and Miñano.
Best regards, Adam Hirst, MPhys (Dunelm)
I have the Welford and Winston "Nonimaging Concentrators",
which I like. I ordered a copy of Chaves--we'll see! Thanks
for the steer.
Cheers
Hmm Chaves is a bit spendy. Welford and Winston looks more in my price range. :^)
Phil, if you think of it would you post some comments / thoughts on Chaves' text?
George H.
I found a copy for $100ish on ABE, and technical books are
tax-deductible, so it seemed like a good bet. The edge-ray
principle is really pretty. (W&W talks a lot about that.) Cheers
Phil Hobbs
Bookfinder found a Canadian source for significantly less, $US 47.52
with shipping.
http://www.bookfinder.com/search/?ac=sl&st=sl&ref=bf_s2_a1_t1_1&qi=68,wvRXnnc2pURxb.gDiNrWMewo_1478150075_1:270:579&bq=author%3Djulio%2520chaves%26title%3Dintroduction%2520to%2520nonimaging%2520optics
https://www.amazon.ca/Introduction-Nonimaging-Optics-Second-Chaves/dp/1482206730%3FSubscriptionId%3D1NNRF7QZ418V218YP1R2%26tag%3Dbf-dt-content-1-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3D1482206730
Cool. George, you officially have no excuse left. ;
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
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Huh.. well I ordered the W&W text. That should be enough for now.

George H.
Adam Hirst
2017-03-12 04:24:57 UTC
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I have the Welford and Winston "Nonimaging Concentrators", which I like.
I ordered a copy of Chaves--we'll see! Thanks for the steer.
Have you yet received your copy? If so, what did you think so far? :-)
Phil Hobbs
2017-03-12 20:17:50 UTC
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Post by Phil Hobbs
I have the Welford and Winston "Nonimaging Concentrators", which I like.
I ordered a copy of Chaves--we'll see! Thanks for the steer.
Have you yet received your copy? If so, what did you think so far? :-)
I haven't had the chance to get into it much yet. At a once-over, it
looks pretty good, though it isn't as much fun to read as Welford & Winston.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net
little sailor
2016-11-06 21:18:36 UTC
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I know I'm very late in responding to this, but if the OP is no longer
available, at least my post might be useful to someone else.
I am the OP, and I thank you very much for your analysis.

In the meantime I had already "converged" to the book of Chaves, I find
it - up to the pont where i read it, that is the first explanations
about flow lines, detailed and reasonably easy to follow.

I have also read through the book of Koshel and I agree that it is more
of a reference book than a book for learning design techniques (although
I do not remember anymore what I read, it was the impression that I got
at the time). Moreover - I started with Welford and Winston (I do not
know if Winston, Miñano and Benítez is based on that!) I read and
experimented a bit with the edge ray principle, but I wasn't able to
understand what is a flow line and why it is useful from their
explanation; that is when I switched to the book of Chaves.

By the way for a software I bought myself LensLab (the entry level
version of Optica), I find it much fun to work with and - even if I do
not have any other significant experience with optical design programs -
I do have the guess that for learning it is better than standard
programs (which anyway I decided not to buy as I did not want to invest
the couple of thousands Euro for something that I yet don't know where
will go); and the reason is that Mathematica gives one much flexibility
to analyze the system according to one's wishes.
One problem with LensLab is that the intersections with the surfaces are
not always found - I experimented in different ways and at the end for
example I had to give up reproducing a diagram in Welford and Winston,
the one where the rays that hit a CPC are classified according whether
they are transmitted or rejected and for the transmitted ones the nubmer
of reflections is counted. I know that Optica is better on that respect,
but again it is much more expensive.


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Boxman
2017-01-21 18:06:38 UTC
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Post by little sailor
Continues from the previous post -
what about basic books on illumination engineering? Something that would
explain basic designs and their principles so that one could start
experimentin a bit on his own in a sensible way? I have a good general
knowledge of optics, but e.g. a book like John Koshel's illumination
engineering is too advanced for me as a starting point in this field -
as I can't see from that what are the principles that one follows to
start designing illumination optics.
Thanks in advance for any answer to any of my two posts!
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I know I'm very late in responding to this, but if the OP is no longer
available, at least my post might be useful to someone else.
I would personally recommend the absolutely excellent book "Introduction
to Nonimaging Optics, 2nd Edition" by Julio Chaves from LPI, Madrid.
More or less the entire field is covered from start to finish, clearly
explained, covering specific examples along with general cases. There's
even a library of very useful geometric optics routines and plane curve
related expressions in the back!
I like some parts of Koshel's book, but other parts are simply too
specific to be especially useful to the "general" nonimaging-optics
reader. Lots of focus on optimisation, as well, which, while relevant to
the daily life of an optical designer, doesn't make especially
interesting or groundbreaking reading. At least in my opinion.
Another book worth mentioning is "Nonimaging Optics", by Winston, Miñano
and Benítez, especially chapter 7 for design problems. However, it
suffers similarly as to Koshel, and perhaps more damningly, there are
errors and oversights - for example, some of the graphs and figures in
that chapter showing the end performance for surfaces tailored according
to the methods shown for specified parameters are actually for
*different surfaces*, and there are some typos in the section on the 3D
point-source tailoring section which make some of the resulting
equations useless (using the same letter but with different accents to
mean totally different quantities is asking for trouble...). So,
basically, start with Chaves.
Source: I'm a student at CeDInt, under Profs. Benítez and Miñano.
Best regards,
Adam Hirst, MPhys (Dunelm)
Sorry so late to discussion. As everyone here has already confirmed
Chaves book is top for the field. Of particular use is the last chapter
describing the equations for plane curves. I converted the chapter to
c# code to be able to create curves for use in ray tracing programs. If
anyone can use code, I'm willing to share.
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