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Other good optics forums?
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g***@gmail.com
2017-10-02 15:29:04 UTC
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Sci.optics seems dead. Any other good places?

Someone pointed me to the DT35 distance measuring device.
https://www.sick.com/us/en/distance-sensors/mid-range-distance-sensors/dx35/dt35-b15251/p/p295353

And I was wondering how it worked. (What's inside.)

George H.
Phil Hobbs
2017-10-02 15:39:24 UTC
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Post by g***@gmail.com
Sci.optics seems dead. Any other good places?
Someone pointed me to the DT35 distance measuring device.
https://www.sick.com/us/en/distance-sensors/mid-range-distance-sensors/dx35/dt35-b15251/p/p295353
And I was wondering how it worked. (What's inside.)
George H.
The alt.lasers crowd mostly went to photonlexicon.com, I think. There
are still a bunch of us here, just not many questions these days.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
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Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net
Mike S
2017-10-02 23:05:58 UTC
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On 10/2/2017 8:29 AM, ***@gmail.com wrote:
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Post by g***@gmail.com
Someone pointed me to the DT35 distance measuring device.
https://www.sick.com/us/en/distance-sensors/mid-range-distance-sensors/dx35/dt35-b15251/p/p295353
And I was wondering how it worked. (What's inside.)
George H.
did you read this yet?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proximity_sensor

it's interesting, looking fwd to replies here.
g***@gmail.com
2017-10-02 23:53:36 UTC
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Someone pointed me to the DT35 distance measuring device.
https://www.sick.com/us/en/distance-sensors/mid-range-distance-sensors/dx35/dt35-b15251/p/p295353
And I was wondering how it worked. (What's inside.)
George H.
did you read this yet?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proximity_sensor
it's interesting, looking fwd to replies here.
I'm guessing they are modulating the laser beam.
The different ranges, will be different frequencies,
to match different gains (of the TIA),
as the intensity drops off.
(But I don't know.)
George H.
Phil Hobbs
2017-10-03 00:33:48 UTC
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Post by Mike S
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Post by g***@gmail.com
Someone pointed me to the DT35 distance measuring device.
https://www.sick.com/us/en/distance-sensors/mid-range-distance-sensors/dx35/dt35-b15251/p/p295353
And I was wondering how it worked. (What's inside.)
George H.
did you read this yet?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proximity_sensor
it's interesting, looking fwd to replies here.
I'm guessing they are modulating the laser beam.
The different ranges, will be different frequencies,
to match different gains (of the TIA),
as the intensity drops off.
(But I don't know.)
George H.
There are a lot of ways of doing this. A sawtooth waveform is the simplest.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net
Jeroen Belleman
2017-10-03 08:16:38 UTC
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Post by Mike S
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Post by g***@gmail.com
Someone pointed me to the DT35 distance measuring device.
https://www.sick.com/us/en/distance-sensors/mid-range-distance-sensors/dx35/dt35-b15251/p/p295353
And I was wondering how it worked. (What's inside.)
George H.
did you read this yet?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proximity_sensor
it's interesting, looking fwd to replies here.
I'm guessing they are modulating the laser beam.
The different ranges, will be different frequencies,
to match different gains (of the TIA),
as the intensity drops off.
(But I don't know.)
George H.
There are a lot of ways of doing this. A sawtooth waveform is the simplest.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
It's not a simple proximity sensor. The datasheet says it
sends 3ns red laser pulses with a 1/250 duty cycle. They must
measure the echo return time, I suppose.

Jeroen Belleman
g***@gmail.com
2017-10-03 17:12:42 UTC
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Post by Mike S
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Post by g***@gmail.com
Someone pointed me to the DT35 distance measuring device.
https://www.sick.com/us/en/distance-sensors/mid-range-distance-sensors/dx35/dt35-b15251/p/p295353
And I was wondering how it worked. (What's inside.)
George H.
did you read this yet?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proximity_sensor
it's interesting, looking fwd to replies here.
I'm guessing they are modulating the laser beam.
The different ranges, will be different frequencies,
to match different gains (of the TIA),
as the intensity drops off.
(But I don't know.)
George H.
There are a lot of ways of doing this. A sawtooth waveform is the simplest.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
It's not a simple proximity sensor. The datasheet says it
sends 3ns red laser pulses with a 1/250 duty cycle. They must
measure the echo return time, I suppose.
Jeroen Belleman
Jeroen, I couldn't find a data sheet. I did see some spec that claimed
~1mm resolution ~ 1 ps timing.. or something else.

George H.
Jeroen Belleman
2017-10-04 07:15:18 UTC
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Post by Mike S
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Post by g***@gmail.com
Someone pointed me to the DT35 distance measuring device.
https://www.sick.com/us/en/distance-sensors/mid-range-distance-sensors/dx35/dt35-b15251/p/p295353
And I was wondering how it worked. (What's inside.)
George H.
did you read this yet?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proximity_sensor
it's interesting, looking fwd to replies here.
I'm guessing they are modulating the laser beam.
The different ranges, will be different frequencies,
to match different gains (of the TIA),
as the intensity drops off.
(But I don't know.)
George H.
There are a lot of ways of doing this. A sawtooth waveform is the simplest.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
It's not a simple proximity sensor. The datasheet says it
sends 3ns red laser pulses with a 1/250 duty cycle. They must
measure the echo return time, I suppose.
Jeroen Belleman
Jeroen, I couldn't find a data sheet. I did see some spec that claimed
~1mm resolution ~ 1 ps timing.. or something else.
George H.
There's a link to a 9-page pdf datasheet on the web page you
referred to. It doesn't give a whole lot of information, but
enough to guess that it measures the round-trip delay of a short
laser light pulse.

Jeroen Belleman
Phil Hobbs
2017-10-04 14:29:47 UTC
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Post by Mike S
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Post by g***@gmail.com
Someone pointed me to the DT35 distance measuring device.
https://www.sick.com/us/en/distance-sensors/mid-range-distance-sensors/dx35/dt35-b15251/p/p295353
And I was wondering how it worked. (What's inside.)
George H.
did you read this yet?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proximity_sensor
it's interesting, looking fwd to replies here.
I'm guessing they are modulating the laser beam.
The different ranges, will be different frequencies,
to match different gains (of the TIA),
as the intensity drops off.
(But I don't know.)
George H.
There are a lot of ways of doing this. A sawtooth waveform is the simplest.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
It's not a simple proximity sensor. The datasheet says it
sends 3ns red laser pulses with a 1/250 duty cycle. They must
measure the echo return time, I suppose.
Jeroen Belleman
Jeroen, I couldn't find a data sheet. I did see some spec that claimed
~1mm resolution ~ 1 ps timing.. or something else.
Resolution, sure--just average a million shots. Accuracy, not so much.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net
whit3rd
2017-10-10 00:08:37 UTC
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Someone pointed me to the DT35 distance measuring device.
And I was wondering how it worked. (What's inside.)
I'm guessing they are modulating the laser beam.
Isn't it a lidar set? Frequency-swept outgoing chirps, and receiver that
mixes down against the transmitter signal, so you get a low difference frequency

F_difference = dF/dt * 2X/c

... that shows up on an FFT
AGC is allowed (it's not an intensity-dependent signal).
The receiver can be relatively low-gain, and AC coupled, which
gets rid of lots of stray light issues, even if your (iight) filtering is sloppy.

Looks like there's a lens, maybe collimator with a retroreflector for a target.
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